I worry that two coats might look too light, but with one coat, I still see some yellow coming through (my sample has the Traffic HD matte though, not satin). It looks like you have SOLID 5" (that ranks as wide plank = glue assist) White Oak. Dark floors are pretty popular with clients but as you mention usually going with white or painted cabinets. Doing the samples benefits me and the installer and builder they want me to like the finished product so they dont have an unhappy client. Nordic seal has white pigments. I've read mixed reviews of the Loba one last thing, Is your parquet the kind with slats/"fingers"? It may not be the same price you would get if you buy it yourself from Cochrans. I lost confidence in my floor guy - I think he wasn't wiping the stain off but letting it dry on resulting in washed paint look. white oak If that's OK to do (ie I remember hearing it's a problem when you apply more layers like poly but I'm not sure) it might work for you. Then ask the fabricator about the stone you are considering if it's purchased from a separate slab yard. W Spray Mop Kit EJD1462712 I believe you can put Titan on top of Pullman's and then Fortico on top of Titanif you like Pallman's colors. G & S isn't bashing you, they are bashing the 'dudes' in the industry. Anyway, good luck. Shaina.. White Macaubas is a true Quartzite not a granite. It's hard to tell how deep those scratches are. We did samples on floor and two coats looks significantly different. if anyone else has found a reasonable solution, could you pls share what you did and a few pix? They just don't get any DARKER over time. I was asked two separate questions. Thank you to all of the experts for weighing in. Can you apply the Bona NaturalSeal and then apply a couple coats of something like the Renner? Maybe a snick less because they won't be using any product. Any suggestions would be great. If a few hundred dollars (or even more), meant the difference between loving my finished product and hating it, I felt having samples was well worth the cost. The edge is not as nicely finished as the Corian. I completely understand the desire to keep it open between the kitchen and lower level because you want to keep the sight lines and feeling--but perhaps you should just "try" closing it off and see how it feels. No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. I did a lot of research and planned to try Bona NaturalSeal, Bona ClassicSeal and Bona NordicSeal on this round of samples. @Moran Blueshtein. You either pay the piper todayor you pay a couple more pipers in 15 yearsThe choice is yours. Webariel winters leaked what is 2 5 as a decimal holiday craft fairs near me 2022 I am often surprised at how it feels to open/close off certain areas. * I didn't know that Classic Sealer added yellow that Natural Sealer did not but I didn't have anything to compare it to. Ill post more photos- the site only lets me post one at a time. Thanks for taking the time to write all that! @Mary Elizabeth I think we have narrowed it down to Ciranova's products..after testing theirs, Rubio Monocoat and several Pallman's waxes, plus a number of normal stains. @SJ McCarthy @mtpo I did hire an installer who installed my floor and was supposed to refinish it. It will 'deepen' the colour you see (ie. There is no haze and the floors look very pretty, natural in color with a light sheen. It is slightly better than a oil base polyurethane system. If you go natural, then ask yourself ONE question: "Do I like 'honey oak'?" If you answered NOOOOOOOO! Oak floors are beautiful and timeless. 1 coat per day, buffing every coat for extra smoothness. WebOld worn white oak floors get a makover with Provincial stain to achieve a warm medium toned brown. DuraSeal is light on the wallet (of the contractor) so they like to use it. The stain alone does not protect the floors, just adds color. DH wants to just go with light maple cabinets and I am tempted. @J Sk did you use natural sealer or natural stain? We ended up using one coat of Bona natural sealer and two coats of HD matte on the floors. Your floors are as important as your roof. white/grey countertops with light wood floor & stainless appliances. Its no different than my quartz countertop and backsplash that also should not have acidic or harsh chemicals, and Im sure most professional contractors wouldnt recommended against quartz behind a stove. We are wrapping up our new build and the floor stain choice was today. Again, just make sure that you are getting professional grade rather than DIY grade product. I"m just assuming you don't want to cut up your floor. Will there be less haze if we use a satin finish? I had just had floors done by a floor shop, two years of hospice requires me to redo them, seems a layer can be scraped up with a spackle scraper easily and turned dark ( like cherry wood does in sunlight but this was white oak ). If you are paying for professional grade products, just make sure you are GETTING professional grade products. Emily Henderson has a white metal railing in her split level home that is pretty gorgeous and widely photographed. Did 4 coats of nordic and 3 traffic hd on 1 dollar a sq foot utility 4 inch white oak but some was red oak as well but still my dog likes it. Its a shame since it could be helpful for others. Houzz utilise des cookies et d'autres technologies de suivi similaires pour personnaliser mon exprience utilisateur, me proposer du contenu pertinent et amliorer ses produits et services. So it comes in at 1025 or 1.25 X 820 sf (amount of flooring ordered with sufficient for waste/scrap. Unless you're certain the gaps developed AFTER installation, I'd suggest the possibility they may have been present all along. Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. Bona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. Please hire someone first before asking them to put down 'colour patches'. But was the Bona Traffic absolutely clear? The people there were very patient with us and very helpful. Obviously flooring isnt my specialty, but it is yours. The refinisher used the 'trendy' finish that s/he THOUGHT you wanted to see. And finally, a 'fit' *might include costs.but it should be much lower on the list than you might think. Why would you use Bona Nordic Seal (Bona productobviously) and then go with LOBA??? I hope some of this information is helpful. This only matters for porosity not hardness. Their attention to detail. Michael, do you have pics of the intense seal? If you have 3000sf then the $2500 upgrade is nothing. I have about 735 sf. I'd love to know what finishes you ended up selecting as well. The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. I forgot to take a photo of the hand made air vent the installers made for the floor vent. What I like to suggest regarding 'cure times' is to give them MORE timenot less. @widdy23 Seems like everything is taking longer than expected. Nora are you installing tower or Windsor? It still should not come off. You need to start watered down, for they are strongjust take good notes of your ratios, LOL. @Lisa Pearen it would help with identification if you post photos. Ill try to get a better photo next time I go to the house (were still not in). We learned a lot from seeing the color and pattern differences between the American white oak and Norwegian white oak (and white oak from other areas). Not change the raw color much, 2. My tub with quartz top. Bona Natural Seal on the top, Bona Nordic Seal on the bottom. . Met with our selected cabinet company last week and played with stain mixed with white paint on rift oak samples. Bona Intense Seal Bona Classic Seal Bona Neutral Seal DuraSeal Weathered Oak Stain DuraSeal Silvered Gray Stain Bona Drifast Stain The Finish We Chose You may not be aware of the fact that white oak floors do not need to be stained. Houzz nutzt Cookies und hnliche Technologien, um Ihre Benutzererfahrung zu personalisieren, Ihnen relevante Inhalte bereitzustellen und die Produkte und Dienstleistungen zu verbessern. Also did the installer abrade between the seal & finish coats? If ending up with the typical honey oak is my only choice, then I'd rather just get painted maple/mdfwhich isn't what I want! Thanks for sharing these pictures - they look great! The matte helps scratches blend. Hard to believe contractors would use your countertops as work bench! Another problem was that the Bona guy I called was not familiar with Loba products, and I am considering both. Unfortunately I don't remember how many layers of each. I waxed it out. Loba in any of its water based formats (low gloss keeps it from looking "finished") options will do exactly what you want. Also, try calling high end custom home builders in the area and ask who they use. thanks, All! Milesi Natural 2k? Get ready for a LONG story! If the floor looks as good as this little exposed area, Ill be really HAPPY. NaturalSeal adds the LEAST amount of 'colour' (either white or yellowdoesn't matter) of all the sealants in the Bona line up. I have lived in my new house for 15 months and I love the look of my floors - they are easy to decorate with and give the home a warm but "cool" look at the same time. Sigh. My contractor said that I will probably need to use the renew oil every few year which I am fine with. (Side shower walls are white). It was another rude comment from someone who was engaging in further confrontation.Ive already asked Houzz to delete the post. They are *very* hard, and you will be hard pressed to find a coating that stands up to them), but it would tell you that the floor coating appears to at least be behaving. Double cost any standard stained finish. Carlyweiss, your post and pictures are so helpful for those of us in the choosing process. The tile on the back wall of the shower and the backsplash is a soft baby blue glass. Are You Gutsy Enough to Paint Your Floor White? True Quartzite is very dense and many are not prone to staining. So much to consider and my cabinet maker doesn't seem to be able to recreate what I am looking for. I always keep at least 100 bundles of stone in stock that I personally hand pick so I purchase thousands of slabs a year. Trying to make this choice right now(within the next two hours- yikes! We love our floors! Im trying to stay with the natural look. We peeked through the windows and the floors are covered with brown paper. BTW after the fabricator installed the countertops (and carefully covered them to protect them), other contractors uncovered them and used them as a work bench and scratched them up - a lot! if so, the bank may be able to give you your money back if you dispute the charge for red oak and the install. Pretty sure they bleached their cabinets but who knows at this point. Yours in Floors Zach Liske Floor Huggers. Based on the research I've done, Nordic Seal has a tendency to show white streaks on the floor. Share pics of white oak hardwood floors stained with Bona (1st home!). Gravity works. Ask youself, do you WANT to see a floor that shines AFTER you clean it? These will give you the raw look, which prints tend to show up on. William Smith, D.D., was ISO something similar to Hallmark Alta Vista "Malibu" in urethane, Questions about chemicals in vinyl install - foul odor, health probs. The only design mistake in the house (IMHO) is this floor - the sample and photos looked so different!). WebWe just installed 5 white oak throughout our home. Compare that to the 2 MINUTES you have with Bona! View a wide selection of Rugs and other great items on KSL Classifieds. (The Classic has less of a haze.) I purchased white oak high grade for our railings and black iron - our floors are Provenza At Ease and my railings match GREAT now, but need to seal them - what do you recommend? I'm so confusedthere is no flooring in the white oak, just the LVP. Skip the 'money saving'. Bona DriFast Stains are compatible with all Bona finishing systems, including waterborne. If so, they are normal surface marking, nothing to worry about. White streaks in floor. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. Sure, white kitchens are beautiful when theyre sparkling clean. Make warm gray your new go-to neutral, Find the right local pro for your project, Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Outdoor Lighting & Audio/Visual Specialists, https://sprucingupmamahood.com/provenza-vinyl-flooring-review/, 5 Essential Moves for Classic Scandi Style, Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, White Cabinets Remain at the Top of Kitchen Wish Lists, Natures Color Wisdom: Lessons on White From the Great Outdoors, What to Know About Engineered Wood Floors, Maison & Objet: Art Deco and a Return to Elegance, Color of the Week: Decorating With Warm Gray. I put any Quartzite that I have not carried before through vigorous testing before I sell it to my customers as a Quartzite. Im happy with the color. ), Share pics of white oak hardwood floors stained with Bona (1st home!). The refinisher must take the time and the money to go to a Bona 3-day training work shop. If he can't get it donethen hire someone NEW and send the bill to the original contractor. I think over the years, they learned how to avoid distressed clients who hate the finished floor color. Oh cripe I had a whole response written out and it went poof. They are *very* hard, and you will be hard pressed to find a coating that stands up to them), but it would tell you that the floor coating appears to at least be behaving. How to keep red oak floors light and natural? It offers a bigger margin of profit. I looked at the bona product and it states it contains a small amount of white pigment? New This Week: 3 Knockout Kitchens With Natural Wood Cabinets, Trending Now: 11 Popular Kitchens That Rock Not-White Cabinets, New This Week: 3 Welcoming White-Cabinet Kitchens, New This Week: 6 Stylish Not-White Kitchen Cabinet Colors, 4 Kitchens With White Cabinets and a Wood Island. Bona is designed to be 'hot coated' that is to say it does BEST when coat 1 and coat 2 (like sealant and then 1st coat of finish) come in quick succession (less than 24 hours but nothing less than the 'minimum time between coats'). Wood Floor Stain Colors 2023 Ideas and Pictures Do you have high ceilings ? , So your final finish was 1 coat of Nordic Seal with 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin? Hi! I didnt want to pull up the protective paper but you can see the floor a little better in this photo. Thanks. If, you want a raw pale look. Post back here with a link if you get more answers than I did or if you go with white! There was a warning on the front door telling everyone to stay out. The light white washing will give you the raw look. We were advised to wait until the economy rebounds. The pillow is from our sofa. There's nothing wrong with making a minor mistake, nor with owning up to it. The reactive simply pulls the tannins. White Oak - which Bona sealer Matte looks a bit dull. Im very happy with them and they are exactly the look I wanted. I am aware that it will require maintenance but most things do so Im fine with it. Yours looks so light and bright. @kasmit00 Did you ever find the recipe for your post from last year with the beautiful soft "brown" floors? WebAn icon used to represent a menu that can be toggled by interacting with this icon. Sigh. Held off on final coat until project finished.. which will be done in a few days. I'm thinking of using HI-MACS LG Hausys solid surface countertops, which I think is similar to Corian. When I see Nordic in photos it looks beautiful, but I dont think I want a white wash. When I put the natural stain on my floor it looks gray. I checked Durasupreme and they have white oak but not in the shade we like. I am actually in the process of having a quart sample of the Milesi Natural Effect 2k finish sent my way. @Ryan Danielson what did you end up going with? Yes, thsts bleached and toned oak with a matte finish. If not, you can at least trivially test the floor: First. The sand/finish guys sampled natural seal, amber seal and IntenSeal. It was applied Saturday morning.". I could also put hot pots on the stainless. How did you retained the natural color of the wood? According to WFB's 2020 State of the Industry Contractor Survey Report, in 2019 red oak made up 48% of installed species and white oak made up 32% WebBona NaturalSeal is a waterborne sanding sealer designed to retain the appearance of unfinished wood on your floor. Our contractor suggested Bona Mega to save some money. Then the next day a coat of finish. I would have loved to find a simpler, cheaper, regular old stain, but they just don't give me the same look I'm trying to achieve. And cure times are the BEST case scenario (temps and humidity are ASSUMED to be PERFECT = they NEVER are in a home setting = please leave an extra day). It has been a nightmare trying to find this look in my area. We didnt get the fumed product because we couldnt know for sure what color the finished product would be. Can a bathroom door swing out instead of in? I bought a cleaner made for the finish (similar to m quartz) and touch up is easy if needed. It looks like the grain is *very* deep on the board to the left. And dont go forward unless they are willing to give you samples with ALL the finished coats. will slightly darken the floors and sort of intensify the variation (the sample boards almost looked wet to me). I am nervous about this and I'm wondering if anyone had trouble with white streaks on their floor? The Corian fabricator came back and polished them just like new. Directly before me was one of the mirrors I have mentioned, in which I saw reflected the tall shape of my friend, Mr. Jennings, leaning over my shoulder, and reading the page at which I was (Plus, the Rubio, the longer it sat there, the more tannins it pulled.) One coat application to saturation, or (for best results apply 2nd coat 'wet on wet') Resistant to algae, lichen and staining. Quartzite is a metamorphic stone.. Sandstone converts to Quartzite from extreme heat and pressure. Our project starts on Dec 5. Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. Have experienced installers figured out how to use the Nordic in open floor plan homes? I personally feel a reputable stone supplier and fabricator will educate you in mineral composition, stone formation, and inform you how and where the stones are quarried. (Mirror and lighting still not in). When he did the sample with a white stain (Duraseal) and my red oak floor turned pink, I stopped the work and started searching for a new guy. We tried a few Duraseal stains on samples and none of them were right. I already lost quite a bit of money in the process so I wanted to know what I get before committing. Nice, eh?! Bona Traffic (original) is two steps up from Mega. That means you relate clean with shiny. Thank you! @tkgriff Love the floor. The good news is the installer will have learned his lesson: do NOT under bid a project just to win it. It was applied Saturday morning. Different painters proposing different solutions to calcimine ceiling. Windows for a 1920's Spanish style home in SoCali. and 3 coats of Satin (which satin did you choose since there are 5 satins from Bona). You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. My cabinets are custom sizes and I was going to go with Barker cabinets (had my order all ready to send), but someone here on houzz recommended I check out this local guy first, and I am so glad I did! I have a dog that has an occasional accident. And using Bona Traffic HD is a MASSIVE upgrade over Mega. I went to the Neolith east coast showroom and actually picked something out I loved but my builders fabricator talked me out of it. Thank you. Don't test just with sealer. And the Nordic seal was beautiful but it was a little cold and it didnt look as good next to a warmer paint color we plan to use.